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Beide Seiten - Gaza by ademmm Beide Seiten - Gaza by ademmm
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german translation of my brother latuffs artork here
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original artwork english Both sides of Gaza conflict

As if putting 1.5 million people at risk of starvation was not enough, Israel weighed a brutal attack on Gaza today, killing more than 920 people, with 4200 injured, including women and children. Once again I beg you reader, my brothers and sisters-in-arts, to spread these cartoons. Reproduce them in posters, newspapers, magazines, zines, blogs, everywhere. Let's make the voice of the Gaza people to be heard all around the world. Thank you, in the name of the Palestinians of Gaza.
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:iconneustrasbourg:
Ha, das ist ausnahmsweise absolut präzise. Besser kann man die Berichte in den Medien über die Raketen in Israel und die Bomben in Gaza nicht zusammenfassen. Als Beweis für die moralische Überlegenheit der Hamas würd' ich es trotzdem nicht nehmen. Wenn sie könnten, würden sie Israel viel mehr schaden als Israel ihnen jemals.
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jaime9526 Jan 14, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so what you are saying is, its ok to fire rockets at people, as long as you don't fire lots of rockets at people? y'know...just a few...
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:iconbattlehungry:
No, its not ok to kill anyone. But as far our executive branch is concerned (the current and incoming) Israel is doing no wrong. The problem is that there is a double standard. According to the UN, Israel is occupying Palestinian land. Do people expect the occupied to sit and accept there occupation passively? Its like putting your children in the room with a pitbull you just kicked. No it's not right to kill civilians, but what do you expect?

Israel and Hamas are both guilty of the same thing. But like I always say, Israel does it on a much larger scale. And my tax ($3 billion a )help pay for these bombs and weapons. This pisses me off.

To me, it looks like the piece is saying... "why the double standard?"
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jaime9526 Jan 14, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i am not sure thats what the piece is saying though...more that one piece of violence outweighs the other one purely by its severity, not by its justification.
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:iconbattlehungry:
They are both wrong but one is more sever than the other (like you said). Like a murderer and a mass murderer. The mass murderer obviously will get a harsher punishment in a civilized world. Because his crime has done more harm. And human reasoning says a punishment should fit the crime.
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jaime9526 Jan 14, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thats the problem isn't ..is one more severe than the other? is it about pure numbers? or how it is gone about?
And given then that both sides are wrong, do not then both sides get punished? and who is responsible for judging the crime and the punishment?

The reasoning we apply to individuals cannot be applied to states, countries or even religions. That is what makes the situation complicated. Because at some point one sides set of rights is decided to supersede the others.

Does the militants right to fight its war against Israel supersede the Israeli populations right to not live in fear of attack?

Does the Israeli right to defend against those attacks, or respond to them, supersede the right of Palestine to exist also without fear of attack and under its own choices?

A more important question..does the right of those who feel it is their right to inflict violence on others, no matter the repercussions to those around them, (Israeli or Palestinian) supersede the right of those who do not want to be involved in that violence in any way, and live without threat?

Does Israel have the right to deny Palestine existence? Does Palestine have the right to deny Israel existence?

Its all about each others right to revenge by this point isn't it.

And until that ends, the troubles won't.

You cannot forgive one side because the other side was more severe. Not least as severity, and even right and wrong, sem to differ in the region greatly according to whose point of view you look at it from.

It was an interesting debate, but I don't think anything is going to be solved by us sadly. :(
The same way I don't think anything will be solved by continued violence in the region.
Nor by biased viewpoints from either angle...the worldwide media has much to answer for in the conflicts, as do people around the world who intentionally fund the violence in this region and others like it.

In the end its all about power, and they need to find the power in themselves to stop it peacefully.
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blackcatdead Jan 17, 2009  Professional General Artist
fair court... but it's not enough.. just like you and them.. everyside will stand right and the oposite wrong..
we must stand in open mind for humanity...
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jaime9526 Jan 17, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i don't quite undersatdn what you mena, but if its what I think it is, then yes.

peaceful balance must be achieved.
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blackcatdead Jan 17, 2009  Professional General Artist
yes it is, everything must be fair..
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:iconademmm:
thats are saying hamas homemade rackets [link] in 8 years 10 people israhelli attacks killed in short time since 27 dec 1000 people (350 children 170 women) most of them civillian 4000 wounded.
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